Hi all, looking forward to kicking this off! Even if you haven’t read the book I’d encourage you to attend!
Here are some discussion questions and a pad to take notes:
Session 1
Discussion Questions
(I got a little blurby, we don’t have to follow these, just some potential discussion starters!)
Introduction
In the intro the author sets up a challenge as one where there is a disconnect between the scale of crises we face (Climate Change most notably) and our individual power or ability to act. Then talks about what get presented as the dominant models of individual and collective action (electoral politics, consumer action, demonstrations, individual moral choices). Do you agree or disagree with this? What are your thoughts or experiences with popular models of action?
The book opens with the example of Occupy Sandy, a mutual aid project after Superstorm Sandy hit New York as an example of “localized self-action”:
Within a week: 2 churches became distribution hubs, 700 regular members volunteered to serving approx. 20,000 meals, and distribute goods to 30ish recovery centres, overall: $700,000 supplies, $1.3million in donations, and 60,000 volunteers were involved.
What stands out about this example? Are there examples from your neighbourhood or experience? Have you been involved in a project before?
Chapter 1 - The Long Crisis
Throughout the chapter the author argues that “the society we live in on the edge of a catastrophic transition to a new order of being catalyzed by widespread economic systemic breakdown,” and that there is a difference between understanding intellectually and accepting emotionally.
Is this an idea you’ve heard before? Does this align with how you have been approaching the climate crisis? Why or why not?
A big focus for the author is on the impact of heat on us as individuals (on our bodies) and on our communities, on our food systems, on our landscapes. Is that how you experience the already occurring impacts of the climate crisis? Are there others?
In the latter portion of the chapter the conversation turns to the role of the state in a “long emergency” as well as the outsize role of hyperscalers cloud computing infrastructures.
For you, what is relevant or important to think about at the intersection of digital infrastructure and the “long crisis”? The government or the state?
He uses the concept of “Organized Abandonment” from Harvey and RWG to talk about the conscious disinvestment in infrastructure that has already happened, but could continue in more stark terms, to think about the question: Is the state likely to respond to “Big Heat” (aka the challenges of this moment)?
Have you seen organized abandonment shows up in your lives? Was this concept helpful or clarifying?
At the end of the chapter he brings up what may be responses to confronting the sober facts of where we are at in addressing global warming: doomerism, despair, or a “return” to rugged individualism… It is clear that is not what he wants most people to experience but he doesn’t quite get to describing the alternatives.
What was your experience at the end of this chapter? How do you deal with the facts of the challenges we face? Is there an emotional component for you?
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Notes
Someone take notes. Volunteers?
Let’s try this pad with read/write permissions for everyone?): Plan to post notes publicly after this session on CoSocial Discourse General Discussions and summarize into a blog post
Goal is for notes capture the discussion, excluding who says what
Introductions (if needed) and Catch-ups
Notes
First impressions
Description of our sense of powerlessness was good in that it affirms the feelings I had already, but of course it made it difficult to keep going. I felt like I “checked out”
Sets the stage but I hope it gets more actionable. “Hope” as in people are just hoping it will get better rather than something people are working towards.
It was quite heavy, and expected some setup, but our conventional ideas about collective action probably won’t do anything. The discussion of Occupy Sandy got me thinking about other things.
His writing about mutual aid in the wake of Sandy lends to thoughts about where hope is coming from. Raises the question of how we define hope. Adam has been discussing online meditation groups with the idea of bolstering ourselves. Urban planning: emergency planning and resilience planning. Sense of detachment that comes from professional training in urban issues.
Somatic practices are a huge part of learning how to manage anxiety and calming our nervous systems, but not particularly well-known. Important for individuals and collectively.
The scale of the climate crisis: compounding crisis. Chomsky: Crisis of Democracy. Issues with democracy are at the foundation of how we tackle these things. Frustration from trying to engage.
Yannis Varoufakis did a TED talk on constraining discussion to the political sphere, but all the action is at the economic sphere, which is a tyranny ruled by capital; how can we democratize the capital sphere?
Experiencing the thing which is front and centre in the climate topics right now, which is immigration.
Interleaving crises: democracy, losing in the political sphere. Collective action models are insufficient to meet the moment.
Political constraints on legal protest – picketing, what options are available?
Mutual Aid Campaigns
Within a week Occupy Sandy set up two churches as distribution centers, $1.2 million raised
Sandy had interesting dynamics: hit a very wealthy place, affected different parts of the city in different ways, so was unlike most other climate disasters in that way. The disaster affected wealthy people, but they weren’t there.
Raises the question of response when where there is industrialized infrastructure vs where there is not.
David Wallace-Wells article on legacy of COVID, 5 years on: COVID affected different places differently in urban vs rural areas, susceptibility to dying and who is vulnerable
hard to remember details about a crisis several years after the fact – traumatic for so many people
Disempowering time because so much we required illuminated our dependency on global supply chains, large corporations, government agencies
Alternatives to highly-specialized equipment
Does lifehouse just lead us to “prepper culture”? And is there something against that
Churches and neighbourhood houses (multi-use tool for social service delivery → coming out of history in Vancouver (and elsewhere))
Loss of faith in government agencies: vaccine mandates & lockdowns
Why churches don’t provide aid the way they did historically? Before the industrial revolution, pastors knew the parishoners, but urbanization took away the ability for churches to help, tithing no longer worked, governments introduced the poor house system.
Johnny Cash: “socialist but not communist” : 20 acres of land with no down payment
Decrease the distress of people who are displaced. The Dawn of Everything: “freedom of mobility” is one of the fundamental human rights and we have lost sight of that in our modern state.
not rugged individualism, but more like “anarchist prepping”
anarchist collectives
ham radio licenses
play with mesh and radios
“the prepping I think we need is building the emotional capacity to be in relationship with people we don’t necessarily like”
build a story, building things that are not intimidating, that feel fun
we can invest in relationships before we “need them”, be doing skill aquisition together, sense of what folks are good at, to work appropriately
room to exercise those muscles of being around people you don’t agree in, but that doesn’t deplete us, or look like the left eating itself
socializing cloud computing and AI and make it part of the commons, in the meantime: more open and self-hosted infrastructure
example: Tonga offline for months, banks could not process transactions, had someone fly to the island every day.
example: rogers tap to pay going offline
Not being able to buy anything, how fragile that is (esp. in Canada with duopoly)
Books (+ideas)
The Quaking of America — Abbie Richards, TikTok disinformation researcher. Important to have a somatic effort to not get mired in hopelessness. “Somatic Abolitionism”
David Wallace-Wells: The Uninhabitable Earth
On covid:
We heard that we could buy twenty acres of land with no money down, and a house and barn, and they would give us a mule and a cow and furnish groceries through the first year until we had a crop and could pay it back…
Hello! I’m excited for our next session tomorrow. Please do join, no matter how far you got in the reading. Here are some ideas for discussion.
Discussion
What are your initial thoughts or questions, or discussion questions that resonate with you?
Chapter 2: Mutual Care
Author offers definitions of mutual aid, distinguishes it from charity, and describes concrete examples. What stands out for you as important aspects of mutual aid?
Common Ground Collective, New Orleans in response to Katrina disaster
Sandy Occupy, NYC
What are benefits and shortcomings of mutual aid?
Dean Spade’s criteria for success
Author argues mutual aid is not a panacea
Author argues that in order to extend mutual aid longer term, the concept of care is needed. Do you agree? How does care help extend mutual aid?
Care is defined as continuous acts of nurturance, maintenance and repair, with an affective commitment.
A matter of collective self-provision, not done in isolation
“Survival programs” like Breakfast for Children, People’s Free Food Program, Community Learning Center by Black Panther Party for Self Defence (BPP), US national, vulnerability to premature death
Health clinics, legal support clinics, small urban farms by Solidarity Network, Greece national, post 2008 financial crisis
Chapter 3: Collective Power
Murray Bookchin, US writer in the 1960’s warned about the planetary crisis and conceived Social Ecology. What is your take on his analysis?
Planetary crisis caused by “social pathologies” of domination - patriarchy, statism and capitalism.
Reorganize society and its institutions to eliminate the possibility of domination - either of nature by humanity or any human being by another
Social Ecology - Would you agree or disagree that Communalism and Libertarian Municipalism are well suited to the Long Emergency?
Communalism
Balanced community, face-to-face democracy, humanistic technology and decentralized society.
Structured around towns, neighbourhoods, cities and citizens’ assembly
popular assemblies making policy decisions in direct democracy
all management, plans, regulations necessary for stewardship
How can we learn from recent experiments, challenges and innovations with the concrete practice of assemblies? “…the throughline consists in people doing something about conditions of life they had come to find intolerable.”
~2000s Horizontalism - leaderless organizations, distributes power to those that show up and participate. Attention paid to new forms of democratic process that allow initiatives to rise from below, attain solidarity without stifling dissent or compelling action.
2011 Movement of the squares - Tahrir Square, Occupy
2014 New Municipalism, Municipalist civic administrations Madrid, Barcelona
2012 Rojava - Eco-socialist, feminist autonomous region in Syria - largest scale, longest running modern example of governance by popular assembly, based on Bookchin’s Social Ecology principle and introduced by Kurdish leader A. Ocalan.
less platforms to broadcast more care for community
Always aligned it with views from somewhere a la ssb: against global singletons discussion vs. a “view from nowhere” universal view of a social media network (the firehose)
Greek medical care through solidarity clinics
relationship to Syriza
originally wanted to pull in the solidarity clinics to health system – basically took it over and shut it down
Way to think about what a state form gets you
taxation as a way to do collective bargaining (e.g. healthcare) or collective purchasing for less than you could purchase separately (e.g., access to a community centre)
Healthcare for all Oregon: Single-payer
Vancouver Budget with proposed arts, culture, board cuts in the name of “no increases to property taxes”
Chapter 3: Collective Power
Murray Bookchin is a vibe, sounds like an “Uh-huh”
We do have cultural forms and ways of countering dominance (or keeping people humble):
reminder of Dawn of Everything
other religious orders
also maybe like Elinor Ostrom and graduated sanctions (escalate over time vs. nuclear option first)
Rojova also focuses on the sanctions that escalate but must start at a local level
What are ways of countering power / boss-mindset
A bit about communalism and municipal-libertarianism
What is the power of using citizen assemblies and direct democracy to counter the long democracy
Why would they work for now?
Or, where can they put them so they have power to act now, at our current level of demobilization?
Put them at the grassroots level because it will be at the local and immediate level
Is the first step that you have to win power?
His view: Lack of power at the municipal level, people got sucked up in government
Quote “Bookchin distinguishes between the gov and the state…”
Rojova participation of women: both 40% in a main body and also in the second women-only body
Parts that we are interested in:
Graduated and local sanctions first (vs. carceral)
Man and Woman co-mayors (Imperfect but useful tools)
Horizonalism
Commonalities between horizonalism and what is enabled by decentralized technologies?
e.g., small autonomous groups that are networked
networked, decentralized model
that model alone is not enough though
shared values + the model is what required
How to get the shared values??
Rojova: emphasis on tackling domination issue, feminism within an ethnic group (Kurds), and sidestepped some issues that might have to be negotiated for a inter-group conversation
Outcomes:
framed as for everyone? (universal) or for only a specific group?
needing the governance structure to account for participation from all groups (equity)?
Question: did the women’s arm of the militia come first? or did it come after?
Thanks @tasha — I’ve fallen behind on this due to some family stuff and was out of town for a while. Unfortunately I have some more family stuff (good things this time, daughter coming to visit) and I just realized I missed tonight’s session. I hope it was a good one. These book meetings are the best.
meeting current needs builds the community we will need in future crisis
anarchist prepping, Margaret Killjoy podcast - The World is Ending
does it have to end in violent takedown?
Dark
Inoculate labor, anticipate a negative response. Social movements can learn this from labor movements
trying to replace or shame the status quo/state - leads to the state having bad feelings about it
Conclusion
reiterate the need for people to be involved in decisions and actions meant to make a difference
is exhaustion and burnout necessary?
true point: we cannot make it our job to reach/save everyone, but every little bit helps
Thanks all! This was another great round of reading together.
We had chatted about potentially reaching out to the author to see if he could attend a Q&A. However, given shifting availabilities, those of us who attended last night thought we should just wrap up here.